262; dystopia

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

[tapping]

The concept of a utopia is an interesting thing, isn't it? An ideal location, an ideal society - something that, in and of itself, is an impossibility. After all, there can never be something as true perfection; there is always some minute flaw. So many people have dedicated their lives in the pursual of their own utopia.

I've seen planets that had no crime, no war, that were peaceful and polite. In theory, you may say that these places are utopias; but that is still incorrect. A more proper term would be 'eutopia'. Eutopia is a perfect place that is real, where as a utopia is a perfect place that is impossible. Yet even then, the fact that outside interference (myself, in this case) can shatter all manners of peace further disproves the existence of even a eutopia.

Dystopias, of course, are far more common than any other type. I have been in control of a handful in my time, establishing law and order as I saw fit. And with the strictest of punishments for transgressions against government and against the laws I laid down.

Though looking back, it's interesting to see how my goals went from establishing a universal utopia to simply doing as I willed when I willed. The hands of time change us all, most certainly, and I've always been very bright.



Now then. Say, through some means, you are given a set of options. You may rule over a utopia, a dystopia, a eutopia, and an outopia (which I did not touch upon, but it is a perfect place that is completely unreal). Which of these would you choose?

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[wonderfulname.livejournal.com]

Eutopia.

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

You enjoy the chances of a little day to day troubles then, hmm? Of course, I expect a fair share of people to choose a eutopia, due to the basis that it is both 'perfect' and real; though everyone's interpretation of perfection is a bit different...


Care to elaborate on what yours would be?

[loosemorals.livejournal.com]

I'm not much of a ruler type, but if utopias don't exist eliminates that one easily, doesn't it? One of the other ones then. The eutopia I guess. You could hopefully ease that over into an anarchy and everyone could pull together one of those deals of working together in harmony.

Then again, doubt it would last long.

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

But if given the option that a utopia were possible, just hypothetically.

I take your idea of a 'perfect society' is that of the anarchist's. Absolute liberty, complete freedoms, no government, no laws; people free to do as people wish provided that they don't throw everything into disorder and disarray. Common sense dictating morals and ethics.

[eatinurdudez.livejournal.com]

I would most definitely choose Eutopia.

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

I'll keep that in mind - though judging from how you've been acting pleasant, I expect the castle has been mucking about your head. I'll default your eutopia to dystopia.

[catalyzing.livejournal.com]

Is this like a retreat for philosophers? Also what the fuck's the difference between a utopia and a eutopia which by the way I think you made that shit up if both of them are perfect? And what would be the point of ruling a utopia if it can't exist?

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

No, I'm bored.

Utopia is a concept that is an impossibility. It is perfection at it's absolutism, it is infallible and indestructible. Contrastingly, a eutopia is a place of perfection (by various definitions) that can reasonably exist outside of theories.

It is called a theoretical question, Schuldig, and within said theoretical question, a utopia is allowed to exist.

[so-many-needs.livejournal.com]

None of the above. I'd hire people to run it for me, while enjoyed the privileges of being a responsibility-free figurehead.

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

Ah, but as you've hired people to run it for you, they must be running one of the above in your stead.

Dictated;

[thatlittlepest.livejournal.com]

I told you to stop it.

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

No.

[broken-clock.livejournal.com]

[a sigh; sympathetically] If you keep on with that you'll only end up with a headache.

[galacticthief.livejournal.com]

I can't think of a reason I'd want to rule any of them.

A dystopia sounds like entirely too much work and the others would be dull.

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

Always someone else's job, hmm?

[dreams-in-red.livejournal.com]

Harry would choose a dystopia.

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

Did I ask you for my own future self's choice?

[broken-clock.livejournal.com]

You know very well what I would do.

I'd find myself in a dystopia, make it the beginning of a eutopia, and leave.

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

Then I'd come right behind you and set it back on the path to dystopia.

dictated

[notcaged.livejournal.com]

My people have existed in an enclave for thousands of years; it is what you call a eutopia.

[pause]

Nay, it remains perfect only to those that have the strength to live by its ways. Perhaps, then, it is a outopia? These are words that escape me.

I chose the life of freedom. I would not commit myself to any 'topia.

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

By it's own right, you could call it a dystopia. To all those who can live by it's ways, it is idyllic, but to those who cannot, it is hellish?

Mmm. Personal freedom is always preferable to anything society could concoct.

[fishy-go-byebye.livejournal.com]

Outopia swirls only in the little bubble that Dream had ♥

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

Oh? Care to elaborate?

[bring-god-down.livejournal.com]

I would prefer to not rule over either of them, but if I had to make a choice I'd go for the outopia.

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

The closest thing to a perfect, yet normal life, hmm?

[imahumanryo.livejournal.com]

Everyone wants a eutopia.

Not a single one of us are going to get it and none of us are ever going to rule THIS place, so there's not use wondering about shit like this.

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

It is for the sake of theoretics.

dictated;

[majestic-blue.livejournal.com]

I would rather rule a eutopia, of course. However-- I realize that it is not the place that matters, but the people that created it and live in it. Because of this, I fancy myself a ruler of a place that is completely and utterly up to the imagination...

Said imagination, greed, and fear are three things particular to human nature that seem limitless even to an optimist such as myself, but that is another topic.~

[sinister-charm.livejournal.com]

Wouldn't you then, say, choose an outopia? By definition, 'unreal' could mean a place that is, indeed, ruled purely by imagination. It allows for one to do... well, whatever they can think of.

Indeed, it is - and one for a later time.