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I know what it takes to bring him back, and I knew I could have handled it at the time. If I really didn't care about what happened to the townspeople, then I wouldn't have gotten involved at all.

[lol a long pause] Allen, if you had the chance, you wouldn't kill the Earl?

You couldn't have handled it if you got knocked out like the last time, that's my point!

I wouldn't do it if he'd just come back in two weeks! Why risk what he might do out of rage when he returned?

And my point is that I knew I wouldn't have gotten knocked out.

That guy can't do anything, at the time he's come from.

You don't know that for sure! Most people don't know when they are going to get knocked out!

That doesn't make killing him in the middle of the city square and letting Guts go mad in that armour any better, Ino.

I know what I'm capable of, and I've had enough practice to know exactly how to get him to stop without hitting me.

[frustrated] Well I'm sorry not everyone is as morally upstanding as you, Allen! That man is responsible for everything that's wrong with Guts' life -- if it makes him feel better to kill him, then I'm not going to deny him that chance! Do you think I want other people to get caught up in this and get hurt?!

Edited 2010-03-05 19:51 (UTC)

Maybe you don't want that, but it will happen! It always does!

Just-

By that logic, does that make what the 14th doing right? The Millennium Earl certainly made his life hell and killing him with his own hands would make him feel better. The Earl certainly deserves to die too.

So would you not deny him that chance either?

I don't know enough about either of them to make a decision about that.

[Did you seriously...just say that because I know i explained that stitch to you]

Meaning there is a chance you think that the 14th taking over me is perfectly justifiable?

What? No! If he wants to do that then he shouldn't be using you to do it.

Well he is! Just like Guts is using armour that he knows is dangerous and can hurt innocent people to get what he wants! And even if you weren't around, you know he'd still use it!

I'm sure both of them have it justified in their minds, but neither are better than the other!

No. He promised he wouldn't use it if I wasn't there to stop him.

[... did you

really

just compare guts to that asshole.

... just silence. ohhh she is seething over here]

And he promised me he wouldn't use it at all, but he broke that promise! And as I recall, he didn't call for you to come when he came to confront that man at the fountain!

[Yes he did, and he ain't gonna take it back because...well its' kinda true right now]

Bakura and Tyki stole it! There's no way he could hide it from them to keep them from doing it again, and who knows what THEY would do with it! And I know when that happens even if I'm not right there with him, because I can monitor his chakra!

I -- I can't believe you just SAID that! [IS SERIOUSLY THIS CLOSE TO BITCHSLAPPING HIM]

That's just an excuse! He could take it out to the dead zone to have it destroyed or find some other way to hide it! He didn't try finding another way before putting back on the armour, did he? And you happen to be able to monitor chakra isn't the same as him being careful about not using it!

Because it's true, Ino! You just refuse to see it!

He can't have it destroyed in case an enemy shows up and he needs it to fight. And yes, he did! We tried to figure out a different way! Do you think he didn't feel bad about what happened before?! And it's not like I enjoy seeing him go crazy!

No, it's not. It's not the same at all. You complain about people treating you like you don't know anything, but in this case you don't!

You're not even making sense! You say that you tried to figure out a different way, yet he should keep it in case an enemy shows up so he needs to fight! That still breaks what he said to me! There can be other ways to fight, and really it can't be that effective if it can so easily go berserk and attack anyone near him!

Then tell me how it's different, Ino! Really! How is it really different?!

That's why he's been wearing it recently, before this guy showed up, but we were trying to find a way to hide it so he didn't have to! And I won't let that happen.

-- I already told you, it's not my place to explain! And apparently I was stupid to think you would trust me!

Then try harder to find a way, it's been a long time since that happened! And you might not always be around, Ino!

So it's what this man did to him? [a huff] The Earl made the 14th's life hell, made his brother's life hell, caused the deaths of thousands if not millions, tortures thousands of souls to use as weapons, has tricked thousands of people into thinking they can bring back loved ones when it's a trap and is trying to wipe humanity out itself! I hardly see what that man could have done to make Guts different from the 14th.

And I do trust you Ino, but trust doesn't mean I can't question things.

Edited 2010-03-05 21:32 (UTC)

Try harder? Do you have any suggestions, then? Because Bakura can see everything Guts is doing, every second of the day. It would be impossible to hide it from him, and I would rather Guts had it than Bakura! [IGNORES ... THAT LAST PART wkjehkwje]

[... AND STOP MAKING VALID POINTS. GRRRR.] I promised not to talk about it.

[and then she sighs] Look, I don't want to fight with you. Guts isn't actively going after him right now, but if he does again, I will help him, and I'll do everything I can to keep others out of it. That's all there is to it.

... I would be a hypocrite if I condemned getting revenge. I'm sorry if that disappoints you.

Find a way to make Bakura not see what he can do then hide it in the dead zone, possibly in pieces! Bakura can't use any special sort of power to find it out there!

You don't have to talk about it, my point still stands! You still haven't given me a reason to how they are different!

[a frustrated noise] Even if you've gone for revenge in the past, doesn't mean you can't see how this is wrong! Maybe if you tried harder to get rid of that armour or make sure he didn't do it in the middle of a public area, I'd be more inclined to believe you. Right now I think you just refuse to see how wrong this situation is because Guts is your friend.

We've tried that, too -- he's somehow found a way to spy on him as a little spirit that can't be destroyed! And if he can't find it regularly then he'd know to look in the Dead Zone -- not to mention if it was out there it would be impossible to monitor it to make sure nobody else got a hold of it!

[HOW CAN SHE EXPLAIN IT WITHOUT BEING SPECIFIC ALLEN ..] He's done something much worse to Guts personally. I can't be more specific than that.

I'll keep a closer eye on him, but there is no way he'll get rid of that armor while Griffith is here. And how do you expect me to make sure he doesn't do it in a public area? He's mentally unstable, I admit that. All I can do is make sure people stay out of the way so they won't get hurt, and bring him back as soon as possible.

Have you tried asking anyone else if they can destroy it? Have you? That's why you hide it in pieces so it's harder to find, and sometimes check to make sure it's still there!

That doesn't make it better, Ino. Guts's personal pain does not outweigh the pain of millions of people! And you said yourself you don't have enough information about the 14th, so how do you know if Guts's revenge is better? Even I don't know the full story of what happened!

Then get rid of the armour yourself if you have to or do whatever it takes to convince him to do so! And I expect you to because you're the one who wants to support his revenge so much! Then again, how do you even expect him to keep his promises to you when he broke his word to me and you admit he's mentally unstable?

Yes! And if it was in pieces, it would take way too long to gather it up if he needed it. Checking is great and all, but I would rather not risk it, and neither would he.

I didn't say that it outweighed anything or that it was better or worse! Just that that's how it's different! And you're right, I don't know, so maybe I'm wrong about that!

[low blow, man. low blow] Stop, Allen. Just stop! Do you even hear yourself?! [a pause where she's clenching her fists, trying ... not to start crying akjwehkwe] What kind of friend are you, talking like that!? Just because you have a problem with revenge doesn't mean you can go around preaching to people about what they can and can't do! I will do everything in my power to keep the situation under control, no matter what happens or where it happens. I don't expect you to agree with what I'm doing but treating me like a little kid who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong will get you nowhere!

Then why can't he go without it at all? There's lot of people who fight without the help of special armour and they do just fine! Guts isn't weak without it!

Then I'm sorry, but I still don't see how it's different.

I hear myself just fine, do you hear yourself?! I'm not treating you like a child at all, I just don't think this is a good idea at all! Do you want me to just sit by and say nothing when I've seen what that armour can do?

Edited 2010-03-05 23:03 (UTC)

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